Palin Hacker/Lamer Revealed!

on Sep 19, 2008

The truth hurts: We have been profligate in our spending, inadequate in our saving and greedy in our investing. A RADICAL overhaul is needed:

Agreed. I assume that that is Bush's fault as well? I am not as willing to assume that 50% of the country are just morons who all got fooled by Bush into acting as you describe. If that is the case that he has got to be incredibly brilliant and powerful. The radical overhaul needs to be with each of us individually and stop blaming BUsh for everything in the world that went astray as we watched.

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kenwas

on Sep 19, 2008

Still can't edit, sorry.

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WeatherBound

on Sep 19, 2008

4 years with McCain after 8 years with bush. We wood be Doomed for sure.

Life is so much better right now with Bush.

You just need to ask yourself. Are you living a good life with no worries? Are thing really as good as They say?

I know that we are in one of the worst times. If you don't believe me just watch the news. Or better yet fill up your gas tank.

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unclerob

on Sep 19, 2008

Snidely Whiplash

reply 22

i truly feel sorry for anyone who votes for McCain/Palin. this country is in dire need of a new direction in leadership and McCain/Palin will not provide it. McCain is trying to say he is a candidate of change but he has voted in line with Bush over 90% of the time and he has admitted to it.

3 years ago, i was telling everyone i was hoping McCain would run. i was actually a fan of his and probably would've voted for him dependent on who the other candidate would be. but McCain has aligned himself with the religious right and his "straight talk" and truthfullness has taken a dive. 3 years ago, he stated the leaders of the relgious right should not have any influence in politics. why is he such a fan of theirs now? he'd rather lose his integrity than lose an election, i guess.

Obama is a racist or so at least somebody in this thread says. i highly doubt that. the man's mother is white! remember, whoever said he is a racist, racism goes both ways and you ARE guilty of it by making your comment.

Palin can see Russia from her window and that makes her an expert in foreign policy? and don't say Obama isn't, either. Obama has NEVER made claim to being an expert. don't say McCain is! he didn't even know Spain isn't in Latin AMerica the other day.

you know, it's quite humorous that all Wassila town council meeting minutes are now removed from the town's site. I was reading them 2 weeks ago. i wonder what national election campaign had them removed.

i also wonder why Palin doesn't want her husband or staff to be questioned regarding Troopergate. if they have nothing to hide, answer the question!

in case you're wondering, i am a registered democrat but i vote for the individual, not the party. if a republican or independent is the better person, i vote for him/her. i started voting in 1976, have never missed an election (local, state, or national), and have NEVER voted a straight ticket. if i thought Mc/Cain/Palin was better for the country, i'd vote for them. they aren't, tho. just because McCain was a POW doesn't mean he's a better candidate. i'm tired of that logic. years ago, i worked with a man who was a POW for for years in a German camp in WWII. he had physical disabilities the rest of his life due to the torture he received in that camp. Jack was the nicest man i've ever met and i miss him a great deal but i'd never consider voting for him for the office of President of The United States.

and when it comes to earmarks, when did obama ever say he hadn't asked for any? not once has he claimed to not asked for any. in my mind, it's every elected official's responsibility to get as much aid from the federal government to make things in their respective town, city, or state better. don't claim to have never asked for any or a disdain for the process when you've been a supporter of the process since the first day you were elected, though! "Thanks, but no thanks" my ass! the woman wanted the bridge built while she was running for governor. she can deny it all she wants but it's public record unless the McCain campaign has all the records removed and the videos removed from YouTube.

here's something that i find interesting:

Let's look at the educational background of your two options:

Obama:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

& Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899

& Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism

Based on that last part, I take it you're saying that only a person with a top-level university degree is allowed to be president? Based on that criteria, it should be easy to setup a database of every living american, filter out everyone except those with outstanding university educations and then present your list of possible candidates for president based on those results?

How about military service for your country? Wouldn't that credential apply? McCain served and almost died for his country and he knew that when he entered the service. How many candidates have willingly entered military service and served their country knowing that they could possibly die during that term of service? That seems like a pretty decent consideration to take into account.

I'm not bashing education or even outstanding educational credentials as those that were listed, let's just make it clear that isn't the only criteria or probably not the most important set of criteria to consider when electing someone as the president.

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unclerob

on Sep 19, 2008

WeatherBound

reply 5

4 years with McCain after 8 years with bush. We wood be Doomed for sure.

Life is so much better right now with Bush.

You just need to ask yourself. Are you living a good life with no worries? Are thing really as good as They say?

I know that we are in one of the worst times. If you don't believe me just watch the news. Or better yet fill up your gas tank.

- maybe you should reconsider your statement, look at those that are unfortunate to have been born in countries without access to food, water, health care, etc.

Things can always be much worse than they are, be thankful for the things you have and focus on those things first before lamenting on the negative.

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ZubaZ

on Sep 19, 2008

Are thing really as good as They say?

Yes. Things are better than they have been (over the long term). I think that we are seeing a market adjustment that should have been expected.

http://finance.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX:.DJI%20INDEXNASDAQ:.IXIC%20INDEXSP:.INX

Are you living a good life with no worries?

I had worries before and during Bush's tenure. But those are not his problems, those are mine. Is my life good? Yes. Again, due to my choices of not to use credit and to have a fixed mortgage and to spend less than I make. I work at a job I like making them a fair amout of money and reaping the benefits of that with a fair wage.

Or better yet fill up your gas tank.

I'd look more towards the car and oil companiies before I looked at the president. What's he supposed to do? Go back to his lab and invent something? Or go to congress and force them to make laws to force us to do something? That's crazy talk. You want to save money on gas? Walk, ride, carpool, bus. Don't vote for Obama and expect gas prices to drop. And if they do through some "tax break" or "refund" know that other people that worked hard supplied that money . . or it's being stolen from a future taxpayer.

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WeatherBound

on Sep 19, 2008

- maybe you should reconsider your statement, look at those that are unfortunate to have been born in countries without access to food, water, health care, etc.

But I am talking about those who have been around for at least the last 8 years in the states.

Other countries will alays have there problems too.

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unclerob

on Sep 19, 2008

quoting post

Gateway Pundit has revealed all the details. The name of the Sarah Palin E-mail hacker/lamer is David Kernell, and he is (not surprisingly), the son of a Tennessee Dem State Rep.

More important, the question that should be asked is...

- Is he a PC or a MAC?

Inquiring minds want to know!

(anyone else love these new emoticons? - man, they're awesome!)

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unclerob

on Sep 19, 2008

WeatherBound

reply 9

- maybe you should reconsider your statement, look at those that are unfortunate to have been born in countries without access to food, water, health care, etc.

But I am talking about those who have been around for at least the last 8 years in the states.

Other countries will alays have there problems too.

Your statement & reply back are fair enough to be sure, what I was trying to say is that when you compare north american life to those human beings living in countries where access to food, water, access to medical assistance is very limited, etc. Life on this side of the pond is that bad comparatively speaking.

Just thought I would say that (and yes I'm probably being a smarta$$ in the process, sorry about that)

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unclerob

on Sep 19, 2008

meant to say ISN'T that bad, not IS that bad

- I suddenly can't edit posts in the forum, another wc site issue?

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WeatherBound

on Sep 19, 2008

Having said all. and whatever Happens with the election.

I Am Proud to Be American!

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Island Dog

on Sep 19, 2008

I had worries before and during Bush's tenure. But those are not his problems, those are mine. Is my life good? Yes. Again, due to my choices of not to use credit and to have a fixed mortgage and to spend less than I make. I work at a job I like making them a fair amout of money and reaping the benefits of that with a fair wage.

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DrJBHL

on Sep 19, 2008

I strongly disagree that the govenment should be involved in the investment community's failures. Tell where that's in the constitution. And no, it's not part of regulating trade.

Where did I say they should be? They have the responsibility to regulate interstate trade and that's just the way the division of powers says it. If you don't like the idea of the Feds regulating trade, amend the Constitution, Zu.

We're gonna end up on welfare because our jobs will disappear thanks to the current administration's lack of doing the oversight it should have been doing. Allowing the market to be "free" (Bushese for not doing your job and letting your cronies profit from it) invited the current collapse. That's just fact. I don't like it, but it's the truth.

Would the Dems be better? I don't know. The Republicans did screw the pooch royally, though, and if you can't see that what's the point of arguing it farther?

Your last sentence is a non sequiter, but I certainly agree with the sentiment.

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ZubaZ

on Sep 19, 2008

I strongly disagree that the govenment should be involved in the investment community's failures. Tell where that's in the constitution. And no, it's not part of regulating trade.

Where did I say they should be? They have the responsibility to regulate interstate trade and that's just the way the division of powers says it. If you don't like the idea of the Feds regulating trade, amend the Constitution, Zu

We're gonna end up on welfare because our jobs will disappear thanks to the current administration's lack of doing the oversight it should have been doing. Allowing the market to be "free" (Bushese for not doing your job and letting your cronies profit from it) invited the current collapse. That's just fact. I don't like it, but it's the truth.

Depending on how you interpret the commerce clause of the constitution the feds do have the right to meddle in intrastate trade (intrastate meaning our states and other nation-states) . . so I'll stand corrected (even if I do not like it

).

Having said that though . . the commerce clause puts the power in not the exuctive branch but in the legistlative one. So where does that put us? Still the president's fault? Still his responsability?

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3:

"The Congress shall have power . . . .to regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;"

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MadDeez

on Sep 19, 2008

Island Dog, nowhere have I said Obama will "wave his wand". Our standing in the world matters a great deal and you know it! All I'm saying is this country can not afford another 4 years of the current policies. Tell me something McCain will change. If he states he'll change anything, that would go against his actions the last 5 yearsI was a McCain supporter for years. Like I said, until 5 years ago, I agreed with most of his beliefs. Not now. He's aligned himself with the religious right and I totally disagree with that.

i won't be replying anymore in the thread. i have my strong beliefs, you have yours. the thing is i'm right and you're wrong