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Published on February 1, 2013 By Anthony R In Personal Computing

Microsoft need to get serious about making Operating systems in the future and needs to give me at least 1 good reason to switch from Win 7 which is the best Operating system I've used to something new. With Win 8 I have nothing but reasons NOT to switch. Get serious people.


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on Feb 02, 2013

My Old man got windows8 he reacted the same since he was sooo used to have that start button and that little menu that poped up if you press that STARTBUTTON... he cursed a lot at windows 8 until i made him a simple list with keyboard shortcuts and explained him how the new UI works and how he can navigate quickly through it.He is happy with it now it took a little but he speaks differently about it now.
I think its all about adjusting yourself and realy trying to understand the OS some people simply cant do it on their own without someone that knows and is able to explain it step by step, the explaination from MS is horrible and has been from the DP.. till RTM true! Others dont want to learn about it.( they reject it and repeat what all the other guys said ...its shit it sux or things like its missing super needed features most of these claims come from folks that also never tested it or tested for 30 minutes or just repeat what some guys said about the CP in the end this is all BS and simply not true.
I like windows7 i still do but i simply prefer windows8 now over it because it gives ME more options for my PC at Home it comes with a lot of additional stuff that is usable for me like weather email notification news feeds all has been already there without to install any third party app.Where is that in plate7 ?
sorry i had to   No lets stay serious here you either like it or hate it it is up to you -windows7 is great and so is windows8 i just cant hear it no more that many still hit on windows8 and talk nonsense about a good OS that is very close to equal.
Some devs might see that different but im talking about the perspective of a home user right now.
Stick with 7 say windows8 is not your type of OS. But stop saying it SUX or its shit, since ( this is not about you Anthony im talking general here )you making a fool out of yourself. Try to be fair both Win7 and Win8 are good just one fits your needs better point.

starkers
Not only is it faster and more fluent/fluid, it presents greater opportunities, such as complete syncing with other Windows platforms [phones, tablets] without having to jump through hoops to establish a network, etc

I always forgett about these simply because i want to compare the OS against OS but Stalkers is absolutely correct about it since its a huge new road windows8 took
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on Feb 02, 2013

starkers
Really?  You've given it all of... how much time, and already you've decided it sux?  True, Win 7 is a good OS, but once you get accustomed, Win 8 is actually better.  It is faster in every respect and ultra-reliable, not to mention seamless and easy to use.  In fact, it that good I haven't been in Win7 for months now... and yeah, I have a pretty decent machine with Win 7 on it upstairs, I just never have a reason to log on to it, such is the superiority of Win 8.

Oh, and Win 9 is sure to contain even more changes to be in line with MS' new direction, so don't ever expect to see another 7ish OS from them as those days are gone.... and a little bird told me support for Win 7 could start winding down as early as November 2014 to make way for Win 10 mid-year 2015.

This is quite the contradiction. You say you've been using Win8 for months yet say they haven't given it enough time. It only takes a few weeks and that'll be plenty of time for you to make an assessment whether you think the OS sucks or not. I personally don't like the direction Win8 is going so will stick with Win7 until I am forced to move to another OS.

You mention that it's more fluid for synchronization between devices without having to setup a network. Not everybody has a windows tablet or windows phone so that's only relevant to Microsoft's avid customers who will use only Microsoft products. I personally use android, I don't own a tablet and have no intentions of. I think that a desktop should remain a desktop and not try to merge tablets and desktops as one. I know you say about more performance etc.. but I firmly believe it's because Windows has taken the "block" colour approach just like the metro tiles. It doesn't take much for a graphics card to render those. Even onboard graphics from motherboards dating back well into the 80s could manage that. 

I mean no disrespect by your opinion but support or not, Windows 7 will still work in the future and will remain my OS of choice.

on Feb 02, 2013

starkers
XP and Vista will be forced into retirement before the year's end, and support for Win 7 will begin to wind down in late 2014. Now that is not to say support for Win 7 will be entirely axed, security patches would still be issued for a time, but MS intends to pour its resources into new and emerging technologies.
How about some actual sources for this information, and I don't mean what I thought to be extinct years ago, that being a Dodo bird?

on Feb 02, 2013

Well said, Roloccolor, though you put it more kindly than I would right now.  Frankly, I'm quite tired of hearing people pissing and moaning about Win 8.  Underneath the Metro UI, which can be bypassed, it's just like Win 7 only faster, so really, what's the bitching really about?  For mine, some people ain't happy unless they're bitching about something, so when it's about something that's atually better than its predecessor, and its a gripe without qualification/any real experience, it pisses me off immensely.

So, in changing a saying my dear old grandmother used to say: If you have nothing nice to say about Win 8, STFU.

Now I'll go take some meds before I get myself further into trouble.

on Feb 02, 2013

Windows 8 sucks. I even have a Surface RT to give Microsoft's vision a fair chance in an ideal setting and have given metro plenty of tries On a PC. It's inferior. Vastly inferior.

on Feb 02, 2013

Wizard1956

Quoting starkers, reply 14 XP and Vista will be forced into retirement before the year's end, and support for Win 7 will begin to wind down in late 2014. Now that is not to say support for Win 7 will be entirely axed, security patches would still be issued for a time, but MS intends to pour its resources into new and emerging technologies. How about some actual sources for this information, and I don't mean what I thought to be extinct years ago, that being a Dodo bird?

Link  one of many you can find that are beetween 2015 and 2020 but if you do the math and consider the progress of technology you come closer to the first date 2015-2016 we have technology currently that is not sold on the market yet that is far superior over what we know atm look at the usb sticks micro SD cards ( those are the best examples i can offer ) look at the size of them  some of these things are actually old. like 2 or 3 years old im talking about the big memory monsters that are recently released.
YOu can surely find better and more trustworthy pages than the one i posted i could post a german page that claims the same.

 

on Feb 02, 2013

 

starkers
XP, which got 3 Service Packs, and Vista which got 2, Win 7 will remain pretty much as is, except for security patches,
XP got updated to stay functional as long as MS could keep it in service because of the flop before it which left a bad taste in everyones mouth and XP was so widely used and still is, public demand stayed high for it. It remain a fully functional, usable OS. Public safety, government, medical and much of the consumer supply chain still depends heavily on it.

Vista was badly broken until SP1 and by then, 3rd party support had caught up with it, SP2 took care of what few issues it had that needed fixing prior to Windows 7 release. Even so, there was no big push to drop XP support in favor of the "new technology". Windows 7 may never need a service pack because for the first time, MS got it right, right out of the box. Many of the security breaches now involve 3rd party software, such as Adobe or Java, not Windows itself.

starkers
Win 7 mightn't exactly be dead by mid to late 2015, but users wanting to keep pace with the changing times will need to move to the newer OSes.
Again, that didn't happen with any MS OS before and won't likely be the case now. I said billions of dollars, the actual cost including equipment, software and retraining, plus the lost man hours to make such a change-over would be in the trillions.

Touch screen workstations in the workplace? Right, forget about carpal tunnel, neck, shoulder and back injuries would rule the day, again costing man hours and money. Portable hand-held devices may benefit from the technology but mainstream computing will not be going that way any time soon, imho.

on Feb 02, 2013

Frogboy
Windows 8 sucks. I even have a Surface RT to give Microsoft's vision a fair chance in an ideal setting and have given metro plenty of tries On a PC. It's inferior. Vastly inferior.

 a little explaination what are the points of beeing inferior would us help to understand why you think so it would clear things up for us more
Like the navigation swipe functions are not good they dont react some stuff like delay in app opening anything. 
All the info that many released so far is it SUX its shit but never gave any points out what they didnt like and what is better compared to win7 unless the missing startbutton and startmenu and grafik experience.
Almost in every topic there is no conversation able point given to talk about these things/ reasons they dont like because it consists of ugly sux no startbutton no startmenu. Really ?

on Feb 02, 2013

I can respect those who hate windows 8 because they don't like any windows operating system or because it is a terrible tablet interface....but to say that windows 7 is better is a clear sign of ignorance....

For desktop and laptop users, windows 8 is basically windows 7 with a larger start menu that holds more shortcuts and allows those shortcuts to be "live"...so, if you didn't like windows 7 then yeah you probably wouldn't like windows 8 either because they are basically the same....but if love windows 7, then I think someone is simply playing the "I hate change" card....

on Feb 02, 2013

starkers
The thing is, Win 8 is usable without Start 8 if one wants to take the time to relearn old tricks. However, I see no real reason why Start8 can't be installed for those who want to use the OS like Win 7.
Time is money, big money....spent on retraining an entire workforce and the IT world would have to deal with a new OS and 3rd party software to emulate an operating system that already exists. Sure, that will happen.

on Feb 02, 2013

Tried W8 and its sucked.  Got tired of bouncing between W8 metro  And just W8.  Used start8.  Might be good for a tablet or phone but not a puter.  Took the puter back and fixed my old one with W7 and will keep this one running till I'am forced to use a different OS.

Yep.  

on Feb 02, 2013

Seleuceia
I can respect those who hate windows 8 because they don't like any windows operating system or because it is a terrible tablet interface....but to say that windows 7 is better is a clear sign of ignorance....

For desktop and laptop users, windows 8 is basically windows 7 with a larger start menu that holds more shortcuts and allows those shortcuts to be "live"...so, if you didn't like windows 7 then yeah you probably wouldn't like windows 8 either because they are basically the same....but if love windows 7, then I think someone is simply playing the "I hate change" card....

 

From your point of view you're saying Win8 and Win7 are basically the same. Why pay twice for something you already have ? 

 

on Feb 02, 2013

roflmfaoo

Quoting Seleuceia, reply 24I can respect those who hate windows 8 because they don't like any windows operating system or because it is a terrible tablet interface....but to say that windows 7 is better is a clear sign of ignorance....

For desktop and laptop users, windows 8 is basically windows 7 with a larger start menu that holds more shortcuts and allows those shortcuts to be "live"...so, if you didn't like windows 7 then yeah you probably wouldn't like windows 8 either because they are basically the same....but if love windows 7, then I think someone is simply playing the "I hate change" card....

 

From your point of view you're saying Win8 and Win7 are basically the same. Why pay twice for something you already have ? 

 


why do you upgrade your subscription for Stardock products ? i payd less for my windows8 pro systembuilder than i did for my OD sub it was a great great deal + like many already said it comes with adittional features free apps and a complete new user expierence while its on the same high standart that windows7 was performing on and quicker in some cases. I knoiw this wasnt pointed at me but arent these things not already enough to consider changing if you like it to a new OS that is only 24,99 USD or was? 
 

on Feb 02, 2013

roflmfaoo

From your point of view you're saying Win8 and Win7 are basically the same. Why pay twice for something you already have ? 

It's far more different than Vista to 7 in features added and interface, yet far more familiar than XP to Vista.

Why does anyone ever upgrade their Windows OS?  They all do mostly the same things in different ways...until now.

I can respect people not liking the start screen, because hey it is different.  Hell, we still have tons of people around here sticking with XP for heaven only knows what reason.

But arguing that it has no new worthwhile features is silly.

Hell, here's my post about WinRT apps (and yes, I know it's not written as well as it could be.)

http://scarletpaladin.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/the-case-for-winrt-apps/

on Feb 02, 2013

Hell, here's my post about WinRT apps (and yes, I know it's not written as well as it could be.)

 

i like the ideas behind Windows Runtime a lot. when such applications become standard, Windows 8 will be an option. i have a feeling it will be at least Windows 18 then though.

seen the latest Office version by Microsoft? not a sight of Metro or WinRT.

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