I think you'll find the date and time is current.

Yes, I do have it installed...and yes I am unimpressed.  It has been installed ever since it was available...just NOT as a prime system.

Why do you think I'm a Technet subscriber?  To religiously avoid every OS release.....or.....?

The only difference between you and I is...I won't change my opinion of Win8.  At best I MIGHT be persuaded to put-up-with-it.

Or just stick with 7 simply because it works.

I couldn't find any good reason to upgrade and many reasons not to. Win 7 is functional and 8 doesn't move in the right direction. Maybe its good for mobile phones and tablets, but not my desktop. Its an epic failure on the part of Microsoft when I refuse to drop down even 40 bucks for their latest OS. Even the guys at Microsoft admit that 8 isn't finished and it shows. And unlike Vista, the direction doesn't appeal to me. Vista had performance issues, but it had lots of stuff added over XP and it was a step in  the right direction. I'm not all that sure why those who actually like the monstrosity treat those of us who hate it as flat earthers or knuckle dragging troglodyte trolls who refuse to evolve. 

Ah, but I'm not stubborn. 

Besides, my opinion change was due to recognising and embracing the benefits Win 8 has to offer above and beyond Win 7.  Yeah, I changed my mind, so what!  Once you peel away Metro, Win 8 is a faster Win 7 and it works... more efficiently.  For mine, anyone who wants to complain about that has to have rocks in their head.  I mean, really, had Win 8 been released without the Metro interface, there'd be such little difference between them and debates such as this simply wouldn't be raging so unnecessarily. 

The fact is, nobody has to deal with Metro if they don't like it, so really, what's all the freaking fuss all about?

Having to deliberately side-step the Win 8 "feature" to actually discover a viable OS.  Dating a sexy sheila is one thing...but if her ugly sister rides shotgun it's a turn-off.

Have I explained it yet?

You shouldn't HAVE TO jump through hoops to make an OS more comfortable to use....and if it's Grand Design is to get people sliming greasy fingers all over a touch screen then at least throw in the touch screen with the OS to make it viable.

Jury is still out re speed....my Laptop "boots" in Win 7 faster than I can type in the password - less than 2 seconds.  [because it's not a true hard boot].

...and the number of times this machine sees a boot? .....count them on the fingers of one hand in a year, so boot speed [all those finding issues with Fences in 8] is pretty much a non-issue....

one thing i dislike is the Metro screen, not for it's look or it's functionality, but that it gets slapped in my face when i lanuch an application. you know, in Windows 7 i hit the WIN key, type some letters and hit ENTER. most of the time i do not even look at the menu. sure the typing can be done in Windows 8 as well, but why does it insist to show me that Metro screen, when there is no need to see it.

if at least they would have created a monochromatic icon set to go with these scrollbars. the whole thing just looks horrible mixed with those semi-realistic icon left-overs.

"it's a touch-optimized os, well the desktop isn't really touch-optimized ... and if you want to use it with your mouse we have these nice keyboard shortcuts for you ...". looks like Windows 8 was planned as an assassination attempt on Steve Jobs. make him die of laughter.

if you work on the fish market for a few months there's a good chance you will not notice the smell anymore. the fish market still smells.

moshi ...Win 8 needs some TLC from LoneRunnr ....

Fear not...the Stardock crew are in da house....

I don’t know if post #45 was wasted time on my side or simply not understandable
Its all nice that Stardock develops the software for our needs but you guys especially should report things like the stuff you mentioned you don’t like the utterly ugly and unusable GUI that has sunrays coming out of its arse, i can understand not doing so since the income of Start8 and Decor8 must had have been huge i would count money also but besides that devs have more credibility than users in general. I know Stardock made reports and even articles about windows8 but its simply not enough same gioes for the users itself.
But as i said before if nothing gets reported or disliked and nobody provides tips for the future or  ideas for improving things MS will count numbers in  sales surely take the path that the company thinks is correct for the future... I don’t mind going into that direction i still have my win8 or windows7 copy i can return to but as it seems some of you folks are waiting for a new OS especially the ones that hate and bash on W8 you can feel it in almost every post (it was like this in the other thread also.)
The talk suddenly changed to windows9 everyone was complaining about it that you will be forced more and more into the store and all such stuff but in not a single post was somebody mentioning trying to make a change about that path.
I can understand you don’t like windows8- OK but some do and if ( we ) want a better new OS we will have to report certain things and ideas that can improve the experience on it for BOTH SIDES... crying and feet stomping doesn’t help 

Huh?

Last I heard He was working for Google... Might need a revisit to L.S.

XP compared to 7 is like one choosing to watch an old, CRT, black and white TV over a big screen LCD TV in color.

Like choosing a horse and buggy over a limo.

Like choosing the Wright Brother's plane over a Lear jet.

Like..........

Hey hey hey XP is perfectly well like a color TV.  It's got a poor native resolution, the display's a bit washed out, and it glitches often...but it's in color.

it all boils down to personal preference, i reckon. some (myself, phoon, the monk, starkers, and others) like it. others don't. i admit i didn't at first but i've grown to like it quite a bit. i've gone full blown into the win 8 ecosystem since i now have it on my desktop, my phone, and my tablet (i've let my daughter have the ipod mini for the time being). for me, it works quite well. obviously, for others it doesn't. to each their own. now, let's please stop the diatribe towards other members and move on. there's far more important things in da world worth debating, doncha think? for example, 1) intel vs amd procs (INTEL) or 2) nvidia vs amd gpus  (AMD) or 3) parnelli jones vs dan gurney vs aj foyt vs mario andretti (AJ, of course). no, f1 drivers don't enter the equation since i don't follow f1 at all.

As long as there is something to debate there will be angry nerds on forums debating it