You realize the point we (I) am making here is that the GOP campaign are hypocritical.

We're supposed to take the Ayers/Acorn crap as presented by the GOP  at face value, yet Palin is married to a secessionist ( read up on the Alaska Independance Party sometime )  And one of McCain's campaign team worked for Saddam Hussein.

We're supposed to condemn Obama for his relationship with Reverend Wright . How about the the public endorsement McCain accepted from Reverend Hagee ( This is the religious asshat who said Katrina was revenge for New Orleans planning a gay pride parade )

Where or where is the right-wing righteous indignation at the MSM now?

Thing is, the shit's hitting the fan over at Repub HQ now as well, with even McCain and his team calling Palin a self-derving 'Diva' who is not serving the ticket as advised, suggested, recommended.  They are accusing her of political gaffes... cock-ups because she is speaking of her own accord and not following party directions, etc.  I have been saying it for weeks, and now McCain's camp is saying Palin is a loose cannon as well.

Put simply, McCain doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of winning this election with her on the ticket as his VP, but sadly, there will still be those with 'selective' hearing, sight, thinking, memories and etc who still think the sun shines out of Palin's arse and will waste their vote regardless.

Oh, and how about the foreign relations mess she created with Venezuala's Chavez... wasn't very diplomatic or smart to go calling him a dictator publicly, now was it!  Yup, Palin would have enemies crawling out of the woodwork if The US voting public put her in the office she seeks... and would destroy, along with any remaing credibility the US has left.

Hmmm, me thinks the Repubs should invest another $250k in Palin.... a one-way shuttle trip to the Internationa Space Station would save a whole world of pain and hurt for millions... not to mention that it'd be a mere fraction of what she'd blow as VP on an extravgant lifestyle of expensive clothes, shoes, makeup and taxpayer funded travel/5 star accomodation for herself and family.

Nope, Palin is somebody I wouldn't vote in to tend a worm farm.

did you read those articles?  I said Exemplar, not saintly.  Now lets compare to Obama Biden.  Shall we?  Circumventing the will of the people (Obama), associating with known terrorists (Obama), associating with purveyors of hate and possible crimes of hate (obama), Illegally registering unqualified voters (Obama), Plagarizing (Biden), etc.

Did you read about those things?  Has anyone that does not dig?  Palin is accused of running hard campaigns and using a government account for one of them (and no where in the article does it even state it was illegal).  So what is so bad about Palin?  SHe is not liberal and she is a she.  That is all they have on her. I dont mind people busting on her because they dont agree with her policies.  But to demonize her because she is a woman and not liberal?  That is what it amounts to.  I would suggest you try again.  And this time compare Obama/Biden and see who stinks more.  Then tell me I shoudl try again.  You have not done your homework except to prove your own prejudice.

One only has to so a quantative analysis of the coverage to see why it is all over.  Dont use any subjective measures, just objective ones and you will see they are all in the tank for Obama.  The only thing they have not done is get paid by his campaign.  Yet.

The problem is , this stuff about Obama was dug up about DURING THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES. And it was discussed DURING THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES. and was covered in the media DURING THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES.

And you still didn't answer me. Is this too much for you? Someone actually calling you out on your hypocracy?

I'm not up enough on Oz slang....self-derving mean something 'sensitive' (lol-just teasing yer Zubish, Cap'n).

Same as good old GWB...."Operating instructions: Open mouth. Switch feet."

Exemplar of "Queen of Trailer Park Pork".

Your order is "Up" sir: One platter of Industrial strength RNC/McCain-Palin Fear Mongering B.S. to go."

Try dirty/lying/fear mongering campaign. Try low-class...whoops, NO CLASS candidate on a spending spree.

More B.S. Now try the well worn Repub ploy of "Phoney Outrage". Trot 'em all out.

One more platter "Up".

Evwybody is against poor, poor John and Sawah! Boo-hoo!

 And MCCain went on the record saying he simply doesn't necessarily agree with the views of everyone who endorses him. Rev. Hagee had a long record of anti-Catholicism and Catholic bashing. Last March, Mccain put an end to this issue by making a straight-forward denunciation of Hagee's anti-Catholicism. And good things (reconciliation) came from this between Rev. Hagee and the Church. He wrote a heartfelt letter sincerely apologizing for his past mischaracterizations. Today, and going forward Catholics and Evangelical Protestants are working together more effectively on those moral issues where we have strong common grounds...against abortion, stem cell research, same-sex "marriage", and doctor-assissted suicide to name a few.

Catholics and Evangelical Protestants are a powerful voting block .....we are united in our support for McCain/Palin....and that fact will come shining through on Nov. 4th.    

McCain's endorsement from Rev. Hagee and Obama's 20 year relationship to Wright as his radical mentor are two different things. After deciding to run for public office in Illinois...Obama found Trinity Church....besides needing the Black vote....he liked Wright's radical side.... 

He dosen't have to , and neither does Obama. That's my point. You want to play up all of Obama's past dealings , yet whitewashing McCain's . That's self-serving and hypocritical. And thumping a bible dosen't change that.

LOL....he'll kiss any/as much butt as needed. Nov. 5 we'll see....LOL

Thump that.

Yes they are but...............

What part of your thinking enitles you to think they will all vote republican lumping and aligning them all with YOUR thinking?

The Kennedys attract a certain group of supporters yes still, the Californian Hispanics are more likely to vote Democrat than Republican and in California Arnies wife attracts more supporters than Arnie for his so called party.

The Irish vote is more likely to be Democrat than Republican as well - the final Peace Settlement was as a result of Clinton/Mitchel intevention and Bush Jr was told to stay away from final signatures to the Agreement as all here knew who had done the grunt work.

Then there is perhaps the matter that they will analyse, think about it all, not listen to you or I, and make their decission based on what is important to them and their future. I hope they do.

Far from repudiating a bigot. Talk to us about Conservative/Republican "Code" words.

So do I.

Acorn was the primaries?  Better tell Hillary.

Anyone thinking that was GWB blames Churchill for WWII as well.  Chavez is just a self serving meglomaniac.  It destroys your arguments to bring him up.

And before you ask, yes, I have first hand experience with his "policies".

So much for rational discourse with the looney left. Denying your misogyny is the defense of the left.  But it does not make it go away.  The only BS is what you posted.  Next time try facts instead of snarky remarks.

The point was not pointed at Chavez or his policies... it was pointed at Palin's foreign relations cock-up... for publicly antagonising Chavez with comments that he is a dictator.  Whether it is true or not is irrelevant, Palin should not have gone public with her derogatory opinion about a 'World leader', it was inflammatory and did nothing to aid/smooth US - Venezualan relations. 

Of course Chavez was going to respond: firstly to save face with the Venezualan people; and secondly, Palin isn't a World leader and isn't likely to be, and Chavez wasn't going to let some jumped Governor publicly denigrate him and let her get away with it.  Put bluntly, Palin opened her mouth and put her foot in it... and if this is an example of her foreign relation/policy, then Osama bin Laden wouldn't be the only enemy the US would have to worry about, because Palin would offend and create several more with her mouth being in gear before her 'brain' was engaged... and I use the word brain very loosely, because so far I've seen little evidence to suggest she even has one, politically and/or otherwise. 

I've watched her on TV, and without a teleprompter and/or cue cards, Palin can hardly hold a coherent conversation or proffer an intelligent answer to questions asked of her... she bumbles her way through and uses rather uneducated, fractured and unconvincing language that would not gain the respect of world leaders and/or dignitaries.

Yup, relegate Palin to politics and foreign relations from her bedroom window... hopefully the Russians will be too far away to hear....

And anyone who says "I don't care what foreigners think of us" is either very naive or stupid; been living under a rock or is arrogant enough to think the US doesn't need the friendship and respect of foreigners... or all of the above.  The US is NOT an island and it is dependent on the rest of the world for trade, allies and other forms of support, because without it the US would suffer financially, through a lack of resources and co-operation.  To say 'I don't care what they think' is like biting the hand that feeds you, so yeah, it is important what your worldly neighbours think, otherwise they might just happen to stop caring, trading, co-operating and being allies in times of need.

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AUSVET,

Thanks for acknowledging my point...

No part of my thinking...for I don't think that. Not all Catholic and Evangelicals will vote for McCain/Palin and uphold life, but those who do make up a powerful voting bloc. There is no doubt that the Catholic vote has been pivotal in many elections.

You may be right, but after 1960, the trend is slowly changing. Many Americans regret what the Democrat Party has become today...part and parcel with what the late Pope John Paul II called "the Culture of Death". Archbishop Burke said that the Democrat Party once was "the party that helped our immigrant parents and grandparents better integrate and prosper in American society...but that's not the same anymore."

If the American electoriate really wants abortion on demand, including infanticide,  and Socialism, we know without doubt that the Democrat Party will give it to them.

Whether we like it or not, agree or not, all Catholics have an obligation to hold fast to the teachings of the Church and in living out our call to follow Christ, and being in union with God means we must oppose evil...and what is more important in this day and age than giving witness (by our pro-life vote) to protecting the most innocent of humans amongst us, our littlest brother or sister in the womb?

In 2004, Catholics voted for pro-life George Bush rather than Sen. John Kerry, a Catholic who (like  Joe Biden, Pelosi, Swartzeneggar, Kennedy, etc.) are having serious problems with Church leaders over their pro abortion voting records.