Well....at the rate our candidates are progressing from dumber to even dumber...in the next 12 years....if were still here...we'll be voting for plants anyway. So enjoy it while you can. Kinda hard to dress a plant in a KKK outfit. LOL

We are all going to be on food stamps in a year..... perhaps discussing Palin even more is the cure.  

I hope to hell he will be charged with attempted murder in the act of a felony. That's a buttfull more jail time (that's a legal term, trust me).

That being said, the dirtier campaign (by far) is the McCain Campaign. Please let's at least agree on that. The anger generated by that kind of stuff in "marginal" individuals is not met with the desire to have an argument or rational discussion. I think the guy was a head case long before this protracted, ridiculous spectacle and when someone looks at his past record, they'll be tons of violence in it.

I never cease to wonder at our preference and ability to cause each other pain in stead of joy.

I just don't want to touch the race thing because of the pain involved, but I believe the black/white thing doesn't necessarily make it a hate crime nor does it make it not a hate crime: For instance, a white person harming another white person based on religion would be a hate crime, and the same for a black person harming another black person based on religious belief. If he sut her based solely on political belief it might be arguable. I don't think he actually admitted doing that, did he? By the way, I didn't hear of this on CNN (don't start the "liberal media" stuff, ok?). Where is the reference for this?

What bothers me little-whip is this:

This is based on your prejudiced belief that a Prosecutor will "cut him slack" because of race. That doesn't make any sense for a couple of reasons:

1. The definition of "hate crime": One perpetrated based on race, gender, religion, national origin, sexual orientation or other protected status. Where does this act fall per that definition.

2. A Prosecutor generally does his thing as part of a career path and prsecuting a "hate crime" would get him/her lotsa hot press (i.e. blood for a vampire).

There are probably more, but I was awakened early by a clumsy cat.

On a personal note, I hope you're feeling better.

Doc

Do you know of any examples of a black guy being charged with hate crimes?

If only I had the Smiley button now! You just caused a s**t-fit of humongous laughter to tears! Thanx Cap'n! "Danger Will Robinson, Danger!". OMG!

G-d Bless people like Starkers who bring happiness and laughter to others!

after working in the prison system and dealing with these type of groups KKK, skinheads, MS13 etc, even after all those years i still question myself, who do people do things like this, these hate groups, its a cliche, but "why cant we all get along, we are all in the same boat just using a different paddle"

Bloody well said!

Bloody well deserved! Did you see Dr G's hot saturday nite date in Billing's Montana?

Yup. Glad you've noted that Skinhit, but it was a request: I didn't tell you to be civil.

Civility matters. I didn't start this stupid thread and I don't care a tinker's damn about your politics (love your skinning and "give and take" with Po', though) but I eschew the misuse and poor use of language and deplore profanity (the refuge of the inarticulate) and the anger which motivates it.

I seriously doubt you'll find any profanity in my postings and if you relate to what I posted, I thought the entire thread was foolish and over the top. I suspect it was initiated as a "let's be nice to Sarah", "Poor Sarah" or "look at what those evil Dems did to our pretty baby" thread at JU and bled to WC (where I request civility also, on occasion). If you wish to pursue this further, please take it to pm.

And so they come crawling out from under the fridge...

Considering Obama's association with a racist pastor, whom he knew for over a decade and who was his "spiritual guide" before he suddenly barely knew him, I would say he lacks integrity.

The man is not even fifty and has achieved NOTHING (except for himself), yet he wrote TWO autobiographies. (I wonder whether he mentioned writing the first in the second?) I would say that is "prodemoninantly self-serving".

As for character flaws, I think it is a character flaw to work as a lawyer suing banks that won't give mortgages to poor people and then present yourself as the President who is best qualified to solve the economic crisis caused by his earlier work.

I'd rather vote for food.Pizza for President.IceCream for VP.

If there are, they dont normally make the news.

That pretty much sums up OBama (except the Kitchen part) and he is running for Pres, not Vice.  But it also demonstrates the misogyny of the Obama supporters.  Like Lays Potato chips, they cant stop at trashing just one woman.

You're right on. I absolutely agree. I'm voting the "Calorie ticket" from now on!

I guess what goes around comes around.

Oh yes, almost forgot: "shouldn't be let out of the kitchen".....shouldn't have agreed as I can't vouch fer her cookin'. If the statement was to emphasize the damage she could/would cause in high office, then I agree with starkers. Nothing anti-feminist was intended by him or me.

Let's all support a minority President!

Joe Lieberman would be ideal. He is a man (45%), Jewish (2%), and orthodox (10% among Jews). (Numbers are my guesses.)

That clearly outminorities Barack Obama (45%, 15%, 80%) and Hillary (55%, 70%, 80%). (80% is Protestants among respective ethnicity.)

She is as inexperienced as Obama. How could she cause more damage?

I don't know US hate crime laws, but I am wondering whether Jews are one of the groups with special protection.

Does anybody know?