Lets face it Win 8 Sux

Published on February 1, 2013 By Anthony R In Personal Computing

Microsoft need to get serious about making Operating systems in the future and needs to give me at least 1 good reason to switch from Win 7 which is the best Operating system I've used to something new. With Win 8 I have nothing but reasons NOT to switch. Get serious people.

Comments (Page 18)

256

Savyg

on Feb 10, 2013

starkers

reply 256

though if my little bird is correct it will lose support mid-2013

Your little bird needs a fact check http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/lifecycle

257

starkers

on Feb 11, 2013

Savyg

reply 256

Quoting starkers, reply 256though if my little bird is correct it will lose support mid-2013

Your little bird needs a fact check http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/lifecycle[/quote]

Maybe so, but he was/is a Microsoft employee, and and maybe things have since changed with the release of Windows 8 and its slow uptake.

One thing I do know, we cannot purchase it here in Australia anymore, and Win 7 has become rarer than hens teeth since Win 8 hit the shelves. Major retailers don't/can't stock it, and while some smaller PC stores may have a copy or two laying around, even those are far and few between and often quite high in price. Now that was the premise of my question to the MS employee, why was this so, and that was his response to me, that primary support would end mid-2013 for XP and late 2013 for Vista, to free up resources for future development.

258

Jafo

on Feb 11, 2013

starkers

reply 257

Now that was the premise of my question to the MS employee, why was this so, and that was his response to me, that primary support would end mid-2013 for XP and late 2013 for Vista, to free up resources for future development.

Starkers....anything in conflict with the info linked in #256 is either wrong or covered by an NDA....AND wrong....

An MS 'Employee' out-in-the-sticks [Australia] would be unlikely to be privy to anything beyond the formal stance as listed.

A sales-rep has no other purpose/function other than to increase sales [his success] so there is going to be a self-imposed fudging of any reality in order to steer someone towards a new sale/upgrade.

Treat any comments from sales people as dubious at best.

Goes for any industry....

259

starkers

on Feb 11, 2013

Jafo

reply 258

An MS 'Employee' out-in-the-sticks [Australia]

As stated earlier, the person I spoke with was from the US, here to work with/assess various aspects of the Australian market. I can't vouch for the veracity of his comments, but that's what he said.

Anyhow, Win 8 is still the better OS... so I don't care if the others go away [support-wise]

260

Savyg

on Feb 11, 2013

starkers

reply 258

Maybe so, but he was/is a Microsoft employee, and and maybe things have since changed with the release of Windows 8 and its slow uptake.

No, but it did change BEFORE Windows 8. I believe the original plan was 2013, but that changed since the contrast between XP and Vistas support end date was ridiculous.

261

moshi

on Feb 11, 2013

no changes since at least October 2010

http://web.archive.org/web/20101030031001/http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/lifecycle?

the only thing that has changed is that consumer versions qualify for extendend support as well.

262

c242

on Feb 11, 2013

Ah, Jafo, memories. Altering the DOS prompt in form and color was fun also.

PROMPT $P$G$E[37m

263

petrossa

on Feb 17, 2013

Jafo

reply 236

Quoting Roloccolor, reply 235The thing with the mobile phone Jafo i dont have a new smartphone never had i have seen the desktop or the screen of some modern phones sure they have a similar look but whats so bad about it?

Not having/using one probably says it all... What they have is a [comparative] small screen interface where a person's fingers are the limiting factor on what you can do with them. Multi apps on one screen eventually become utterly unworkable...so the trend is to switch out of them...more like hide lateral [virtual] desktops and only ever see one thing at a time.

In simple terms there are computer users out there for whom that is utterly pointless and unworkable as an interface in which to work.

More-over ...optimizing a GUI for a touch-screen suits the phone, certainly...but will never suit all PC use.

Touch screens are handy for POS transactions .... but finger-painting in Photoshop will not happen.

Exactly my thoughts. Do i have such large clumsy fingers or is everyone born now with specially adapted piano player hands? It takes me ages to surf on a thing like that. Either you can't read what's on it without a magnifier or you need to constantly zoom in/out. And let's not even begin with site incompatibilities. Using it outside in the sun is totally impossible even at brightest battery draining display.

The likelyhood i'll do an excel spreadsheet on them is zero, writing a document more then 140 chars is a daunting task, etc etc.

The only way it could work is if the screen was 17" minimum and had a proper keyboard. Oh wait, we have those. Laptops.

Petrossa's 1st law of technology: Not all progress is an improvement.

264

Savyg

on Feb 21, 2013

moshi

reply 262

no changes since at least October 2010

http://web.archive.org/web/20101030031001/http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/lifecycle?

the only thing that has changed is that consumer versions qualify for extendend support as well.

And that happened in 2012.

clearly they forgot to update the top of the page

265

the_Monk

on Feb 21, 2013

petrossa

reply 264

This is the second time you reference 'piano players' in this thread. Maybe you missed my first reply to the first 'piano players' reference back on page 7 (reply #163) so here is the gist of it again.......

While you may be 'used to' a PC, this generation is increasingly not so. They are in fact 'used to' phones/tablets by now. My children (all grown already) can text and surf for webpages on their mobile devices just as fast (if not faster) than anyone else can on a PC. Fact of life these days....

petrossa

reply 264

Petrossa's 1st law of technology: Not all progress is an improvement.

Life's 1st law of life: Those not in forward motion get left behind.

266

starkers

on Feb 21, 2013

Savyg

reply 264

Quoting moshi, reply 262no changes since at least October 2010

http://web.archive.org/web/20101030031001/http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/lifecycle?

the only thing that has changed is that consumer versions qualify for extendend support as well.

And that happened in 2012.

clearly they forgot to update the top of the page

I see no point in debating/arguing the 'supposed' end of support dates. Clearly Micrsoft is disappointed in the slow uptake of Windows 8 and is seeking solutions to migrate as many people as possible over to the new system. The heavily discounted pricing didn't work - and MS wants more Win 8 users to reduce its support load - so if a second attempt at discount pricing fails mid-2013, then MS may just be forced to employ heavier-handed measures.

Perhaps 'my little bird' wasn't too far off the mark after all.

267

Savyg

on Feb 21, 2013

starkers

reply 267

I see no point in debating/arguing the 'supposed' end of support dates.

I have no idea what there is to argue. People were annoyed that XP got special treatment, MS fixed it. There's not much to discuss.

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-vista-consumer-support-extended-to-2017

2012. I could find many more articles from 2012 saying the same thing if you like.

268

Anthony R

on Feb 21, 2013

starkers

reply 266

if a second attempt at discount pricing fails mid-2013, then MS may just be forced to employ heavier-handed measures.

I guess that's one of the reasons why I made sure all my latest hardware could run OS X on Multibeast. This way if MS becomes heavy handed insisting on my use of an OS that I dislike I have other options.

269

starkers

on Feb 21, 2013

Anthony R

reply 268

I guess that's one of the reasons why I made sure all my latest hardware could run OS X on Multibeast.

I've never used OS-X so I have no idea what it's like, but from what I can ascertain, I'd be able to run it on my rig if I were to purchase a copy.

Thing is, how does one go about doing that.... isn't Apple highly protective of its OS, and where it goes? Like does'nt one have to provide evidence of ownership of an Apple PC to eligible to purchase OS-X? I ask because I have no idea. Like the last time I made tentative enquires into getting an iMac at an Apple store, I did ask about purchasing just an OS, and was told no, I couldn't.

270

moshi

on Feb 21, 2013

starkers

reply 266

Quoting Savyg, reply 264
Quoting moshi, reply 262no changes since at least October 2010

http://web.archive.org/web/20101030031001/http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/lifecycle?

the only thing that has changed is that consumer versions qualify for extendend support as well.

And that happened in 2012.

clearly they forgot to update the top of the page

I see no point in debating/arguing the 'supposed' end of support dates. Clearly Micrsoft is disappointed in the slow uptake of Windows 8 and is seeking solutions to migrate as many people as possible over to the new system. The heavily discounted pricing didn't work - and MS wants more Win 8 users to reduce its support load - so if a second attempt at discount pricing fails mid-2013, then MS may just be forced to employ heavier-handed measures.

Perhaps 'my little bird' wasn't too far off the mark after all.

you think MS is going to end support for Windows Vista/7 earlier if people don't buy Windows 8?

completely alienating existing customers ... brilliant idea from a business perspective. if you really believe that it would be smart to invest every single dollar you have in Red Hat stock right now.

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